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аватар Pachok
This time, the family doctor immediately handed us a stack of referrals for tests and immediately for a CT scan, just in case. I did not prescribe antibiotics, only drink / rinse / knock down
аватар Scurra-2
We were also constantly monitored. Wrote analyzes. My husband gave everything. I once. We already drink blood-thinning, for 3 years already, different truth. Antibiotic on the 6th-7th day of the illness, after the next test, she was prescribed, then again the analysis and again another antibiotic, and then another one. My husband drank it all. I limited myself to the first. At the same time, we did not have a cough at all. CT said no. Then all sorts of vitamins and stimol. The temperature was not brought down. On the 6th day I drank ibuprofen, my head hurt a lot. After being discharged from the hospital, she was interested in health. Probably for my own experience, but I didn’t send it for tests.
аватар Sergey_7979
Slovenia abolishes the requirements for a vaccination certificate / negative test certificate / certificate of recovery when entering the country!
Details on countries, citizens as it relates, have not yet been published
аватар Olgaolga153
Pachok
We have a colleague at work (vaccinated) who has been ill with covid. A month later, he picked it up again and successfully spread the infection among employees. We could not even imagine that it could be dangerous. )) And he did not expect. I read somewhere that antibodies are produced to a certain strain. That is, figuratively speaking, if you have been ill with a delta, then you can catch an omicron without having time to leave the hospital.
аватар ollennka
Hello! Accidentally discovered that the topic is still alive). Out of curiosity, I looked at the first page (everything there began with the stage of denial) and realized that this stage still lasts for me. Was this whole topic worth such economic, psychological, and most importantly, environmental losses? How many liters of antiseptics are poured into rivers and soil, how many tons of masks and gloves are splashing in the oceans. And how many people died from other diseases, because all the efforts of doctors were directed to covid, the mortality rate from which is lower than from the same CVD ...
аватар Iren48
Gold words!
аватар YaSlavnaYa
to those who served in the SA: boys, happy holidays! clear skies for you! and weapons only on the hunt!!!
the rest - just peace
аватар YaSlavnaYa
And how many people died from other diseases, because all the efforts of doctors were directed to covid ===
... mine, with covid, was treated for oncology, as well as without this rubbish ... yes, there were constantly covid tests. and when all of a sudden, the plus appeared - they disowned us for a month .... and then it showed a minus - and continued to treat ... all people, everyone wants to live ... and our cancer didn’t give a shit to anyone .... (prastiti for the truth)
analysis minus - and then CT, tests, treatment. and the 3rd year we are alive. and thank you doctors!
now - the second time they fell ill, with pfizer. Tomorrow we are going to take tests, then CT scan, medical examination as if we had been ill ...
аватар Pachok
My mother-in-law had a heart attack a year ago, they were hospitalized, treated, stented without regard for covid, the clinic was state-owned.
My husband has two orthopedic surgeries during this time, in private.
Mom underwent examinations with a cardiologist, a course of droppers, consultations - everything, as usual, only in masks.
It was bad with ambulances at that time, yes, even private ones waited a long time. But this certainly does not apply to the fact that "the forces of the doctors were directed to covid", namely, that people were seriously ill with covid, with the need to call an ambulance.
аватар YaSlavnaYa
By the way, the death rate is lower than...
I’m surrounded by a bunch of doctors (I’m a builder, esicho) and I also shook them all with the question: bliiin, guys, danuns, there are fewer sick people than with the flu! there is only one answer: "less just because of the quarantines! if not for them, the Spaniard would nervously smoke, chuckling and hiccuping"
аватар Pachok
This is what I see as a mistake now, based on the results - that forces were thrown at the development and production of vaccines, and not at the creation of an effective antiviral.
аватар ollennka
YaSlavnaYa, it's good that they didn't refuse to treat me. I’ve seen posts in our district group on FB that they actually refuse planned medical care, since the hospitals have been redesigned for covid, it remains either to drag to the other end of the city, or even to another city, or to die without the same hemodialysis.
аватар Pachok
YaSlavnaYa, yes, quarantines, and medicine on a different level, dexamethasone was synthesized only in 1957, the first antibiotic in 1928.
аватар ollennka
Pachok, what are some examples of antiviral drugs? As far as I know about viral diseases, everywhere the fight is carried out by vaccination (smallpox, hepatitis, influenza, measles, rubella, polio, influenza). Of the real antivirals, I only know Tamiflu.
аватар YaSlavnaYa
ollennka, the question is not that they are not treated ... the question is that we are silent ... everyone is treated at Nur
in Kyiv in the oncological dispensary, if you don’t cough up 1.4k, don’t even come! and this is without the price of preparation (approximately 600-800 UAH more...) and if there is no money, go and die?..
and then I hinted to cheer up - they sent me on the air on the air ... and in the midst of covid
forgive me, my dear people of Kiev - I tell the truth ... I can even name names, if - God forbid - it’s necessary for someone
аватар Apyatka
"By the way, the mortality rate is lower than...
I’m surrounded by a bunch of doctors (I’m a builder, esicho) and I also shook them all with the question: bliiin, guys, danuns, there are fewer sick people than with the flu! there is only one answer: "less just because of the quarantines! if not for them, the Spaniard would nervously smoke, chuckling and hiccuping"
I'm a doctor. I speak the same way. If there were no anti-epidemic measures, everything would not be so rosy at all.
Another thing is that for the most part these measures are exaggerated, and sometimes completely illogical. And it's annoying, really.
аватар Pachok
ollenka, there are effective drugs for herpes. From the Tamiflu flu that you wrote about.
Remavir (rimantadine) is also for influenza A, but there are some nuances.
From the rest of SARS, everything is considered fuflomycins, but during covid they were used and some of them even showed little effectiveness. I think it would make sense to work in this direction.
аватар ollennka
I'm not talking about SARS, I'm talking about viruses in general. For some reason, there are no antiviral drugs for them. Probably not just like that, there is some reason.
аватар Sergey_7979
The Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine abolished the requirement of self-isolation for unvaccinated citizens of Ukraine upon return to the territory of Ukraine:
https://m.gazeta.ua/articles/life/_kabmin-sprostiv-vyizd-ukrayincyam-yaki-povertayutsya-dodo mu/1072217
аватар ollennka
LRT Trumpai. Keičiasi izoliacijos tvarka po kontakto su sergančiuoju.
https://www.lrt.lt/naujienos/sveikata/682/1623604/lrt-trumpai-keiciasi-izoliacijos-tvarka-p o-kontakto-su-serganciuoju-ka-svarbu-zinoti
аватар Pachok
ollenka, there are drugs. Viral hepatitis, herpes are successfully treated with antiviral drugs, HIV is suppressed to titers that are not detected in the tests. But there are difficulties, of course.
аватар ollennka
The fact of the matter is that they crush, but do not cure. It is necessary to ask around competent people, it became already interesting.
аватар mishatour
I haven't been here for a long time, and when I did, it seemed that I was on a medical forum. When I opened this page 2 years ago, I did not think that it would be ahead of Egypt in terms of rating)). I think (like many experts) that the virus is receding and it's time to dust off the suitcases). From March 1, EVEN Israel opens its borders for tourists with two negative PCR (departure and arrival). Yes, today people have created a new problem for themselves - WAR. But people know how to negotiate (which could not be done with the virus) and therefore I hope that they will agree soon.
аватар Iren48
The main thing is to live up to this soon! I wish this for everyone.
аватар nadin65
mishatour (Yes, today people have created a new problem for themselves - WAR. But people know how to negotiate)
It's not a problem, it's a big problem!
Forum thread, also gaining a large number of pages
https://www.turpravda.ua/forums/discussion/257748/napadenie_rossii_na_ukrainu/p21
аватар mishatour
Yes, this is a disaster .... War is always a disaster, a disaster for everyone who participates in it. Only unlike the "corona" which united everyone in the fight against the epidemic. The war will divide people into two camps. Tourism, like sports, is designed to unite people ... I think that the leadership of the forum should prohibit discussion of this topic ... it will simply result in pouring mud right on wrong)
аватар YaSlavnaYa
Covid is back in China...
аватар Pachok
This "covid" is a reason not to help rashka.
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